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Jack Vainisi

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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 8th 2013, 16:33

The only DT's I see in this years draft with height 6'4" and above are Hughes and William Campbell of Michigan. Cambell was highly recriuted out of high school, has a lot of talent but didn't have a great college career.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 8th 2013, 16:38

Jack Vainisi wrote:
lutzz wrote:
Why So Serious? wrote:
NO love for my guy Margus Hunt huh?

We discussed him a while back WSS and my opinion hasn't changed. I focused on the guy at the Senior Bowl, hoping he would be possible pick for GB. But he did nothing well. I mean nothing. He couldn't even beat the low round OL he went up against in pass rush drills. In the game he got washed out against the run and never got near the QB.

Ansah was also disappointing in the practices but he played well in the game as a wide9 end. That is where he would be successful in the pros IMO. I don't know where Hunt plays in the pros. Throw in the fact he's 26 and I don't know how you take him before the third. Someone will, not in high first, as some suggested after the combine but I could see him going anywhere from 31 on. As Charlie Cassidy says about controversial players: "Let somebody else be the hero."

But I will surprise you with the a player I would take a wild ass bet on in the third: Tyrann Mathieu

I don't think the Packers have taken a 5'9" cornerback since Buckley during the Wolf/Thompson eras of Packer football.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/tyrann-mathieu?id=2540180

But how can you like the Honey Badger as a third round pick and not like Montori Hughes as a fourth round pick?

I know the Packers don't take short CBs and almost certainly won't take Mathieu. I see him not as a full time CB but as a replacement for Cobb. A return specialist, special teams demon and part time weapon on D. He is a great blitzer for example.

I've seen him interviewed and he seems like a straight shooter. He may just be a good conman. I consider alcohol and marijuana abuse the least serious of the possible character/coachability concerns. There are proven methods to change that behavior if the person is willing and from the sound of it Mathieu is willing.

The most serious concern for me is a player who thinks he's better than he is and refuses coaching. Those players - like Titus Young, Jimmmie Williams, Christine Michael and Montorie Hughes- destroy locker rooms.


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Jack Vainisi wrote:
The only DT's I see in this years draft with height 6'4" and above are Hughes and William Campbell of Michigan. Cambell was highly recriuted out of high school, has a lot of talent but didn't have a great college career.

Datone Jones is 6' 4" 5 technique end which is why I think he is play in the first, though I would also rather get him in the 2nd because of the same concerns WSS has expressed.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 8th 2013, 17:16

I dismissed Datone Jones when I read his weight - 283 pounds.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/datone-jones?id=2539325

Great pick at #26 if you believe he can add about 20 pounds and be an effective player. With both Neal and Daniels at about 290 pounds, can the team afford to add another guy below 300 pounds? Right now, the line lacks height. If Raji or Pickett were to get hurt, suddenly the rotation will be featuring guys without a lot of beef.

Actually, the more I read on Jones, the more I like him as the 26th pick. But I think the Packers will need to add a big guy later on in the draft and either A) cut Daniels lose or B) Carry seven linemen next year.
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He weighs 283 but he has the right body type for a 3/4 end. He would put on weight if he plays 3/4 or stay where he is if he plays LE in a 4/3. 300 pounds is an arbitrary number. It depends on the guy. Neal is about the same size as Jones and fits the 5T prototype as well. Daniels does not. He will never be more than a situational pass rusher in the 3/4 and would probably be best as a 3 technique. Both weigh 290 but there is really no comparison.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 8th 2013, 20:53

"But I think the Packers will need to add a big guy later on in the draft and either A) cut Daniels lose or B) Carry seven linemen next year."

I do too Jack. My preferred 2 round draft at the moment is Jones in the first and Brandon Williams in the 2nd.
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lutzz wrote:
"But I think the Packers will need to add a big guy later on in the draft and either A) cut Daniels lose or B) Carry seven linemen next year."

I do too Jack. My preferred 2 round draft at the moment is Jones in the first and Brandon Williams in the 2nd.

If it's AJ Hawk and Brad Jones starting at ILB this year, they'd love to see Williams drafted. I would have loved to see the Packers draft Stephen Paea two years ago - this guy appears to have had a very good senior bowl week.

That would mean no safety until the third round. Any thoughts on Phillip Thomas of Fresno State?
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lutzz wrote:
He weighs 283 but he has the right body type for a 3/4 end. He would put on weight if he plays 3/4 or stay where he is if he plays LE in a 4/3. 300 pounds is an arbitrary number. It depends on the guy. Neal is about the same size as Jones and fits the 5T prototype as well. Daniels does not. He will never be more than a situational pass rusher in the 3/4 and would probably be best as a 3 technique. Both weigh 290 but there is really no comparison.

I don't ever remember Neal making a play against the run. I looked through McGinn's 'rating the packers' articles and more then once he mentioned Neal getting washed on running plays. I just don't see Neal, Daniels or Worthy (when healthy) providing good run support if they were required to play more then 25 snaps per game.
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Jack Vainisi wrote:
lutzz wrote:
"But I think the Packers will need to add a big guy later on in the draft and either A) cut Daniels lose or B) Carry seven linemen next year."

I do too Jack. My preferred 2 round draft at the moment is Jones in the first and Brandon Williams in the 2nd.

If it's AJ Hawk and Brad Jones starting at ILB this year, they'd love to see Williams drafted. I would have loved to see the Packers draft Stephen Paea two years ago - this guy appears to have had a very good senior bowl week.

That would mean no safety until the third round. Any thoughts on Phillip Thomas of Fresno State?

IU would love to see Thomas available in the 3rd.
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Jack Vainisi wrote:
lutzz wrote:
He weighs 283 but he has the right body type for a 3/4 end. He would put on weight if he plays 3/4 or stay where he is if he plays LE in a 4/3. 300 pounds is an arbitrary number. It depends on the guy. Neal is about the same size as Jones and fits the 5T prototype as well. Daniels does not. He will never be more than a situational pass rusher in the 3/4 and would probably be best as a 3 technique. Both weigh 290 but there is really no comparison.

I don't ever remember Neal making a play against the run. I looked through McGinn's 'rating the packers' articles and more then once he mentioned Neal getting washed on running plays. I just don't see Neal, Daniels or Worthy (when healthy) providing good run support if they were required to play more then 25 snaps per game.

Good points but this year this no 6' 4" plus long armed 315 pounder. They are rare. I would like to see TT get Richard Seymour on the cheap for a year.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 9th 2013, 07:41

Re Cyprien there is no doubt in my mind he goes in the first, where I am nto sure, I've seen hims as high as around 12 and of course not in it at all. I'm guessing somewhere in the 20's so he may very well be available at 26 though I do not know Theodore wuold be looking in his direction.

I think Hunt's postseason perfoemances definietly blew him out of the first round, which makes him all the more tempting to me as the drsaft moves on. There is so much upside there if he gets the coaching he needs as a "football young" kind of guy. GB is a draft and develop team so the fit is perfect.

As for the Honey badger, sure I am scared of his baggage, but not his talent. The 5' 9" is a concern too, but with so many teams goign to Welker types underneath that height issue can eb somewhat negated covering guys like that.

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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 9th 2013, 09:38

Thompson’s MO has been pretty consistent in the past on D-Line. If he gambles on a D-lineman early, he’ll take another later in the draft. Harrell didn’t pan out in 2007, but the Packers got pretty good production from 6th round pick Jolly until his legal woes.

Neal has gotten off to a slow start but Wilson has been a consistent run stopper and should have a 7 to 10 year career in the NFL barring injury.

Obviously the exception is 2009. Raji was the only pick. Thompson must have felt comfortable that he was going to contribute immediately.

If Thompson decided to take Datone Jones in the first round, then based on his history I’d be looking for him to add another defensive lineman in the 6th or 7th. The Packers did attend the pro day of Mike Purcell (WY).
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I can't mock a draft to save my life. If you think Cyprien is going to go in the first - ok.

For safety's, right now I like Cyprien, Phillip Thomas and Josh Evans of Florida. Evans looks like a good 5th round pick to me.
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One final point on the Honey Badger – he only did four reps at 225 pounds. That’s about half of what I’d expect from a player looking to be a high draft pick. Right now, he’s working on repairing his image, but is he training like a pro?

Talented guy, would be a great ‘boom or bust’ prospect if he can stay clean.

The more I’ve read on Hughes, the harder it’s becoming to argue that he wouldn’t be a ‘locker room cancer’.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 9th 2013, 10:10

Hey ED -

Feel free to throw out some names and take a beating along with the rest of us.

As of now, I've gotten my ass kicked on Montori Hughes and and Barrett Jones.

WSS is trying to sell Margus Hunt, but finding the market soft.

Slinging arrows at the other guys thoughts is part of the predraft process. It's no big deal.
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Been that way all along on Hunt. I think teh biggest thing is how raw he is and that raw potential he has. I guess if you believe youhave guys that can coach 'em up and I do believe the Packers do that very well then he is worth drafting, if you don't then yuo are probably wasting your time.

It's respect we have for each other and our variety of opinions Jack. We may not al haev the same thought process, but we ALL want the same thing in the end and that is Super Bowl Championships for uot beloved team.

I won't be surprised if a lot of guys mentioned in many mock draftrs fall into later rounds, this year more thna many others there are just so many good players and so few studs.

Who ever the Packers decide to draft n defense the guy needs to play with a mean streak that the defense has just lacked for the past couple of seasons. Be it Eric Reid, Alec Ogletree or whomseoever.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 9th 2013, 17:14

Jack Vainisi wrote:
Hey ED -

Feel free to throw out some names and take a beating along with the rest of us.


As of now, I've gotten my ass kicked on Montori Hughes and and Barrett Jones.

WSS is trying to sell Margus Hunt, but finding the market soft.

Slinging arrows at the other guys thoughts is part of the predraft process. It's no big deal.


Jack,

I respectfully leave the draft prognastication to you, Denver, lutzz, and WSS (...and others) because I don't get the chance to watch college football, the college all star games, and the Indy workouts. New Year's Day is about all the college ball I get to see all year, so my opinion would not be too valid. However, since you are asking, I'll take the bait and enter the shark-infested waters! Twisted Evil What I read about Phillip Thomas from Fresno State would be an interesting pick in that he's a hard hitting safety which the Pack could use to get a little more nastiness in our D. I am also interested in Hunt for our defensive line if he could be the second coming of Ted Hendricks from the '70's. I didn't realize til lately that he's already 26 so there's not much time for development unless he can find the fountain of youth. I also hear that Lacy is a possible RB that might be available at 26 but is he really that good or is he a beneficiary of Alabama's great O line? If he's a true horse, he would definitely be a good pick. Help me out here guys, but is he a Mike Alstott-type RB when he was with the Bucs? If so, I would like the pick. I've been preaching that we need a better mudder type team that can play physical games when it comes playoff time. I can't contribute much more than that but I would always like to see an upgrade in our LB's, OL and DL. I think we are adequate at WR but have no objection if TT finds value in the draft at that position. The other pick that could be very intriguing would be picking Eifert at TE if TT goes BPA in the draft. Eifert would provide insurance if Finley decides to walk and/or would definitely provide matchup headaches for a DC. I don't see it happening but it wouldn't surprise me knowing TT and his love for TE's.

I enjoy talking the draft but I don't study up or watch enough to hold a candle to you guys.....It's like bringing a pea-shooter to a gun fight! Razz
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It seems like Thompson/McCarthy like speedy TE’s for the Packer offense. Both Quarless and Finley fitted that bill when drafted. I’m not sure Eifert has the speed the Packers are looking for.

However, now that Jennings is in Minnasota, you know Finley is anticipating a big year – perhaps dreaming of the signing bonus he’s going to get next year from either the Packers or another team in free agency.

How pissed would he be if Thompson selected Eifert or Ertz in the first round? His playing time would be cut and I could see Ertz turning into one of Rodgers favorite targets by midseason.

I still think WSS's choice of McDonald in the midrounds might be the best option.
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Ertz over Eifert? I prefer the other way aroud if it goes that route, but yes, I am indeed in love with Vance McDonald. He also shares a first name with WSS Grandson #2.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 9th 2013, 20:31

I like Lacy as a running back prospect. During the McCarthy era, The Packers running game looked pretty darn good when Starks was running hard down the stretch in 2010. From what I've read and seen, Lacy runs harder then Starks. I'm pretty sure WSS and Lutzz had good things to say about him in a previous thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp_5TqwGJuE

You watch this tape and I have a hard time seeing him last until the 26th pick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9NeqNEApgU

I liked Christine Michael from Texas A+M (a lot) as a ZBS running back until I read he had a shitty attitude and argued with the coaches a lot.

Montee Ball and Stephen Taylor looked like good picks, but each has almost a 1000 carries during their respective college careers.

I like Lonnie Pryor from Florida state as a FB/RB - 6th rounder.
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Why So Serious? wrote:
Ertz over Eifert? I prefer the other way aroud if it goes that route, but yes, I am indeed in love with Vance McDonald. He also shares a first name with WSS Grandson #2.

how come? Like Finley, Ertz has issues with drops, but he also can make some really tough catches. I also tend to think Notre Dame players are overrated coming out.

But in reality, I'm in love with neither. McDonald looks like the best value to me.

Notre Dame is my Clemson - and I'm catholic.
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Absolutely, I think Lacy can be a very good pro and a good fit to the GB Offense. I just rad an NFL.com article that I found odd, it listed the top ten RB's, had Montee ranked 9th yet projected he would go higher than the guys ranked 6, 7 and 8th on the list. I'd have no problem with Montee in Green and Gold.

Not as big of a fan as Michael as others are and the attitude isn't the only part. I found he played when he wanted to and did not generally do well against upper tier competition.

The guy that intrigues me the most is Marcus Lattimore, I know the knee injury is scary, it really is, but I believe in this kid and even if he isn't good to go in 2013 he is going to be great, I truly believe it in 2014.
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Nothing against Ertz, I just think Eifert is going to be a better player, a little bigger, a little faster and with a little better hands. Call it 1A and 1B if you want, just me personal preference between the two. I also agree with you, McDonald is a great value later.
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I really liked Lattimore for the Packers until I looked at his injury history.

Jeez-O-Pete, he’d fit right in with the rest of the squad. Starks can’t stay healthy and Green has missed significant time in his first two seasons. If Benson returns, he’s probably going to be in and out of the lineup.

It just seems like a lot of the guys coming out this year have injury histories. I probably scratched 5 RB’s off my list just for that reason.
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The last time I pumped up a Notre Dame player was Jimmy Clausen. I posted after the draft (on JSO) that the Vikings were idiots for passing up on him.

Obviously that train of thought didn't pan out.well.at.all.for.me.
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The position in and of itself is such a short run position that it is tough to justify drafting a guy with any significant injury history. Then there are cases such as Frank Gore and Don't call me Willis to at least make some cases in the other direction..
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Jack Vainisi wrote:
The last time I pumped up a Notre Dame player was Jimmy Clausen. I posted after the draft (on JSO) that the Vikings were idiots for passing up on him.

Obviously that train of thought didn't pan out.well.at.all.for.me.

Don't feel too bad, I advocated Brady Quinn. Of course I still thing Quinn could be successful if given some decent coaching, I would not mind him being signed to be a back up in Green Bay. Saying that I realize I could be stoned to death for it.
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Why So Serious? wrote:
Jack Vainisi wrote:
The last time I pumped up a Notre Dame player was Jimmy Clausen. I posted after the draft (on JSO) that the Vikings were idiots for passing up on him.

Obviously that train of thought didn't pan out.well.at.all.for.me.

Don't feel too bad, I advocated Brady Quinn. Of course I still thing Quinn could be successful if given some decent coaching, I would not mind him being signed to be a back up in Green Bay. Saying that I realize I could be stoned to death for it.

Quinn in GB is not a bad idea. At the worst, he could sleep on his brother in laws coach. I wouldn't write the guy off. He's been with some pretty bad teams.
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With some pretty shitty coaching.
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Did somebody Fart in here? (spoken in a thick boston accent) It got pretty quiet all of a sudden.

In other news news, I actually saw INTWTFK's name on the viewer login. Next thing ya know, I'll see bigfoot on the Mickelson trail.
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You mean Faaaaaht?

I'm digging in, will have a new Mock next week.
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Exactly

Looking foward to the mock.
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I'll bite. Here is my current wish list.

Round 1

Sylvester Williams
Eric Reid
Jesse Williams
Datone Jones

Round 2

Brandon Williams
Terran Armstead
Jamie Collins
Montee Ball
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Maybe we could have an all Williams first 2 days with Shawn Williams in the 3rd.
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How come you like Eric Reid? I keep reading him as a Packer pick on mocks.

Obviously you know I like Cyprien over the long haul - I think Reid will have a stronger rookie campaingn before Cyprien starts outplaying him.

Elam I wouldn't touch. Lots of baggage.
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Jack Vainisi wrote:
How come you like Eric Reid? I keep reading him as a Packer pick on mocks.

Obviously you know I like Cyprien over the long haul - I think Reid will have a stronger rookie campaingn before Cyprien starts outplaying him.

Elam I wouldn't touch. Lots of baggage.

Fast, agile, long arms, 40" vertical, hitter, good kid. What's not to like? I like Cyprien too but he is not the athlete Reid is and hasn't faced the same level of competition. Something was wrong with LSU this year. The whole team under achieved.

I wouldn't touch Elam either even without the baggage.
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lutzz wrote:
Jack Vainisi wrote:
How come you like Eric Reid? I keep reading him as a Packer pick on mocks.

Obviously you know I like Cyprien over the long haul - I think Reid will have a stronger rookie campaingn before Cyprien starts outplaying him.

Elam I wouldn't touch. Lots of baggage.

Fast, agile, long arms, 40" vertical, hitter, good kid. What's not to like? I like Cyprien too but he is not the athlete Reid is and hasn't faced the same level of competition. Something was wrong with LSU this year. The whole team under achieved.

I wouldn't touch Elam either even without the baggage.

Ok - I'll take another look at Reid off of some different reading material.
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The more I look at Jones, the more I like him. But Thompson needs to add another wide body later in the draft if he selects him.

any thoughts on where Ed Lacy gets drafted? After ed mentioned him the other day, I took another look. I really like the idea of him in a packer uniform.
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I have soured on Lacy after reading the PFW preview saying he was not a real motivated player. This was before the workout proved it. You can't quit your pro day workout because your gassed and expect to be drafted in the 1st as a heavy duty RB.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 12th 2013, 19:25

Jones was real impressive at the Senior Bowl but as WSS keeps pointing out he has been real inconsistent. Could be a boom or bust type like Mike Neal and I would be more comfortable with him if TT trades down to the high 2nd with a team looking for a QB. Cyprien fits there too IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 13th 2013, 06:49

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I have soured on Lacy after reading the PFW preview saying he was not a real motivated player. This was before the workout proved it. You can't quit your pro day workout because your gassed and expect to be drafted in the 1st as a heavy duty RB.

Every year I tell myself to by the PFW report and don't do it. Lazy- it's easier to simply read your thoughts on it. But it's not looking so hot for Lacy right now:

Pretty hard to be a gamer if your a 'not real motivated player'. You have to wonder if he's not another Steve Atkins. And that's a shame - man you watch that take of him against Notre Dame and he really looks special.



http://gossipy.co/sportsnews/nfl-draft-2013-eddie-lacy-reportedly-showed-up-to-pro-day-out-of-shape

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1601225-how-eddie-lacys-subpar-pro-day-will-impact-alabama-rbs-2013-nfl-draft-stock

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 13th 2013, 06:52

lutzz wrote:
Jones was real impressive at the Senior Bowl but as WSS keeps pointing out he has been real inconsistent. Could be a boom or bust type like Mike Neal and I would be more comfortable with him if TT trades down to the high 2nd with a team looking for a QB. Cyprien fits there too IMO.

I'm trying to think of a Defensive Lineman Thompson selected as a higher draft pick that didn't get slammed by the scouts. Harrell - injurys. Neal - inconsistant. Raji - could be lazy and have a weight problem. It's a position that Thompson seems to be willing to take a higher risk on.
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Pretty good interview on AJ Hawk in this blog as well as the report on Lacy's pro day.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 15th 2013, 10:30

Why So Serious? wrote:
You mean Faaaaaht?

I'm digging in, will have a new Mock next week.

It's next week. We are waiting! :)
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 17th 2013, 23:10

lutzz wrote:
Why So Serious? wrote:
You mean Faaaaaht?

I'm digging in, will have a new Mock next week.

It's next week. We are waiting! :)

It’s Wednesday. Digging in my ass – your entrenched.
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PostSubject: Re: Draft prospect - first week in april   Draft prospect - first week in april - Page 2 EmptyApril 23rd 2013, 21:40

I know I know, sorry guys, this year has given me particular fits trying to figure it out, one thing I am sticking to even though I am sure it wil be wrong is no QB in the first round. I am sure someone will trade up to get Smith if he falls and there is so much buzz surrounding Nassib to the Bills, but if they do that at 8 they should fire every single person involved in that decision.

Anyway, it is up now and I apologize for the delay.
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Why So Serious? wrote:
I know I know, sorry guys, this year has given me particular fits trying to figure it out, one thing I am sticking to even though I am sure it wil be wrong is no QB in the first round. I am sure someone will trade up to get Smith if he falls and there is so much buzz surrounding Nassib to the Bills, but if they do that at 8 they should fire every single person involved in that decision.

Anyway, it is up now and I apologize for the delay.

Where?
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